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Hello EFL,

As you probably saw, I posted an announcement yesterday afternoon with many changes. After receiving some wonderful feedback from our users, we are clarifying/modifying the following...

 

1. Thanks to our wonderful EFLO master @emidas, the Activity Check, Development, and ECFA Store are live, so the earning system will be taking effect this week, week ending February 25, instead of March 4.

 

2. As for Career PTs, all players created in or before the previous update week (Feb 18) will be grandfathered in for the old Career PT tasks. Since the old Career PT tasks have been deleted as tasks on EFLO, please submit them under Other or "Old Career PT". Biographies and Retirement Announcements that have been completed may still be used for Carryover, and for the grandfathered-in people doing High School Reviews, you may only claim 8 TPE.

 

3. Presentations will become optional during the regular season, not completely dead. While this doesn't change much in your eyes, it does make it easier on the Presenter Head and the Simmers because rather than waiting, begging, and praying for a Presenter to sign up, we can instead post box scores at a reasonable time if nobody signs up.

 

4. The BOD is making an effort to clean up the forum, however, this is a tricky process than can take a while to complete.

 

5. Due to a homophobic comment made in the thread yesterday (which has since been deleted), user @CrookedAnt has been permanently banned. We will gladly provide the evidence by request in DMs, and a reminder that the EFL does NOT condone racism, homophobia, or any other type of prejudice and that violators will be swiftly punished.

 

Happy President's Day,

NSG

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The new tasks have been added to EFLO and are as follows

 

150-word article = EFL.com Article

300-word article = Article

500+ word articles selected to the EFL Network are still called Network PT

 

10 min. Podcast = EFL.com Podcast

20. min Podcast = Podcast

 

Supplementary Graphic Worth 3 TPE = EFL.com Graphic (as in VHL.com Graphic)

 

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16 minutes ago, NotSoGood88 said:

Additonally, I have spoken with the VHL, and they have clarified that you may claim 150 word Articles for the Affiliate Check now

 

Had two more questions that I wanted to wait for the clarification on:

 

1. Similar to the above, do 300+ word articles still count as 6-point affiliate PTs in VHL and SBA?

 

2. Are there still multi-week claims in the current system? I.e. if I write a 1200+ word article, can I claim that for four weeks?

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Just now, CowboyinAmerica said:

 

Had two more questions that I wanted to wait for the clarification on:

 

1. Similar to the above, do 300+ word articles still count as 6-point affiliate PTs in VHL and SBA?

 

2. Are there still multi-week claims in the current system? I.e. if I write a 1200+ word article, can I claim that for four weeks?

1. I'll have to check on that but I'll do my best to make it so.

2. Yes.

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Just now, NotSoGood88 said:

1. I'll have to check on that but I'll do my best to make it so.

2. Yes.

What will most likely end up as the case, though, tragically, is that it'll be a 500-word requirement to get 6 in VHL and on EFL that'll probably get you 9. I'll push for it though.

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3 minutes ago, NotSoGood88 said:

What will most likely end up as the case, though, tragically, is that it'll be a 500-word requirement to get 6 in VHL and on EFL that'll probably get you 9. I'll push for it though.

 

No worries, thought that might be the case. So to use an example with a 1000 word article, tell me if this is what I'd expect under that scenario?

 

1000 word article

 

EFL (3x 300 words)

Week 1: 9 TPE for Network PT

Week 2: 6 for Article (Claim 2)

Week 3: 6 for Article (Claim 3)

 

VHL/SBA Affiliate (2x 500 words)

Week 1: 6 for Affiliate PT

Week 2: 6 for Affiliate PT (Claim 2)

Week 3: Nothing from that article (likely Welfare unless I chose to create something else)

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1 minute ago, CowboyinAmerica said:

 

No worries, thought that might be the case. So to use an example with a 1000 word article, tell me if this is what I'd expect under that scenario?

 

1000 word article

 

EFL (3x 300 words)

Week 1: 9 TPE for Network PT

Week 2: 6 for Article (Claim 2)

Week 3: 6 for Article (Claim 3)

 

VHL/SBA Affiliate (2x 500 words)

Week 1: 6 for Affiliate PT

Week 2: 6 for Affiliate PT (Claim 2)

Week 3: Nothing from that article (likely Welfare unless I chose to create something else)

Correct.

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2 hours ago, NotSoGood88 said:

4. The BOD is making an effort to clean up the forum, however, this is a tricky process than can take a while to complete.

 

Gimme that ACP access and I'll slice and dice this thing into top shape.

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4 hours ago, NotSoGood88 said:

2. As for Career PTs, all players created in or before the previous update week (Feb 18) will be grandfathered in for the old Career PT tasks. Since the old Career PT tasks have been deleted as tasks on EFLO, please submit them under Other or "Old Career PT". Biographies and Retirement Announcements that have been completed may still be used for Carryover, and for the grandfathered-in people doing High School Reviews, you may only claim 8 TPE.

 

 

Sorry for another round of questions, but I did have a few clarifications I wanted to ask about with this new announcement.

  • The wording above says "Biographies and Retirement Announcements that have been completed may still be used for Carryover." Since the wording is past tense, does this mean that they can only be used for Carryover if they have already been completed before this point, or can they still be claimed if they are completed in the future as long as your player is in the grandfather system?
  • Also I was curious about how the grandfather system would effect Biographies and Retirement Announcements for future players. If a player is part of the grandfather system, would the user still be eligible to complete a Biography and Retirement Announcement for that player in the future once the player retires and claim it as carryover for their new player even if the new player is part of the new Career PT system and not the grandfather system?
  • The other thing I wanted to ask about is a bit of a weird edge case, but it specifically regards how Straight to 199 players would fit into the old Career PT system. When I was looking through the old Career PT definitions yesterday, I noticed a few things that might be a bit unclear. Since the old task definitions were written without a Straight to 199 option in mind, I think there are some potential ambiguities with this case so I wanted to bring them up here and clarify. This mainly relates to the fact from the announcement yesterday that the Straight to 199 players will have their EXP set to 2 to avoid having them in competition for freshman awards, so they would technically be considered Sophomores. (Also on a side note related to this, I believe my new players still need to have this adjustment made as they are currently still listed with 1 as their EXP).
    • The first one I wanted to ask about was for the High School Career Review, the old wording says "A task on your high school career. Available immediately upon creation through the start of your Sophomore season." However, if a Straight to 199 player is already considered a Sophomore in their first season, would this mean that they are not eligible to complete this career PT since there isn't any time period between their creation and the start of their Sophomore season if they are already a Sophomore at the time they are created? Though the other question is that the wording here does not define what is considered the start of the Sophomore season. Does it consider the Sophomore season as starting after rollover occurs (in which case, Straight to 199 players would not be eligible for this task since their Sophomore season has already started at the time when they are created) or does it consider the Sophomore season as starting once the actual season begins and the first game is played (in which case, Straight to 199 players would be eligible for this task as long as it is completed before their first game is played)? I assume it is the first one since I see the definitions of the new Career PTs explicitly define rollover as the start of the season, but did want to double check incase it was different under the old system as that would probably impact how Straight to 199 players fit under the old definition.
    • On a similar note, I wanted to ask about the College Spotlight which is defined as "A task on your college first impression. Available in the offseason between your Freshman and Sophomore year." This definition gets a bit weird with Straight to 199 players starting as Sophomores since technically the offseason that they are created would be the offseason between their Freshman year and Sophomore year. But also since they never had a Freshman year in the first place, it isn't really the offseason "between" their Freshman year and Sophomore year. I always assumed that the spirit of this task was to be a recap of your first year of college which wouldn't really work with a Straight to 199 player. But looking at the actual wording of the task, an in-character piece about your player's first impressions when arriving on the college campus would still fit and make sense with the wording of the task. So I wanted to check whether a Straight to 199 player would be eligible to complete this task during their first offseason. On another note, I did also want to ask about how this task defines offseason. Is it based on update week, so it would just refer to the update week between playoffs week and the first week of the season, or does it include any time up until the games officially start in the new season?
    • The other one I wanted to ask about was the Draft Declaration. This one wasn't a question of eligibility but it was a question of timeline similar to what I asked for the previous questions. The Draft Declaration is defined as "A task on your player declaring for the EFL Draft. Available between the start and end of your final season." Specifically, I wanted to ask how the start and end of your final season are defined. I am assuming that this probably considers rollover as the start/end of the season like the new tasks do, but I did want to double check to clarify.

Sorry for the big wall of text, but since I had some uncertainty about the wording of some of these tasks I did want to clarify it all here instead of trying to make assumptions on my own that may not be correct. Let me know if any of my questions were unclear and I can try to explain better.

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4 hours ago, PigSnout said:

The wording above says "Biographies and Retirement Announcements that have been completed may still be used for Carryover." Since the wording is past tense, does this mean that they can only be used for Carryover if they have already been completed before this point, or can they still be claimed if they are completed in the future as long as your player is in the grandfather system?

Sorry bout that, people who are grandfathered in may still claim future Bios and Retirement Announcements

 

4 hours ago, PigSnout said:

Also I was curious about how the grandfather system would effect Biographies and Retirement Announcements for future players. If a player is part of the grandfather system, would the user still be eligible to complete a Biography and Retirement Announcement for that player in the future once the player retires and claim it as carryover for their new player even if the new player is part of the new Career PT system and not the grandfather system?

Yes

 

4 hours ago, PigSnout said:

The other thing I wanted to ask about is a bit of a weird edge case, but it specifically regards how Straight to 199 players would fit into the old Career PT system. When I was looking through the old Career PT definitions yesterday, I noticed a few things that might be a bit unclear. Since the old task definitions were written without a Straight to 199 option in mind, I think there are some potential ambiguities with this case so I wanted to bring them up here and clarify. This mainly relates to the fact from the announcement yesterday that the Straight to 199 players will have their EXP set to 2 to avoid having them in competition for freshman awards, so they would technically be considered Sophomores. (Also on a side note related to this, I believe my new players still need to have this adjustment made as they are currently still listed with 1 as their EXP).

I understand your questions in the below pretty well so I'll answer them rn

 

Your players may do the High School Career Review, since technically this is your 1st ECFA season, however, being ST199, I'd rather you not do College Spotlight out of the spirit of the rule. As for when the offseason is, I would personally define that as the time between rollover and Preseason.

 

Start/end of is rollover to rollover if you ask me, and I think that's a generally accepted timeframe.

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11 hours ago, NotSoGood88 said:

Shoot I forgot this too: To make up for Articles being worth up to 9 TPE, you may now either do 1 graphic for 6 TPE or 2 for 9 TPE, similar to how the VHL does VHL.com Graphics.

 

So they get to do the normal requirement and get more TPE, we have to do twice the work for 3 more TPE? Something doesn't seem right here still.

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1 hour ago, NotSoGood88 said:

Sorry bout that, people who are grandfathered in may still claim future Bios and Retirement Announcements

 

Yes

 

I understand your questions in the below pretty well so I'll answer them rn

 

Your players may do the High School Career Review, since technically this is your 1st ECFA season, however, being ST199, I'd rather you not do College Spotlight out of the spirit of the rule. As for when the offseason is, I would personally define that as the time between rollover and Preseason.

 

Start/end of is rollover to rollover if you ask me, and I think that's a generally accepted timeframe.

 

To touch on that, we have to avoid the college spotlight? Kind of seems like a drop of the ball moment as you said it's technically our first ECFA season but also we are sophomores. Seems like a loophole opportunity there. What if it were possible to still do that since it's technically the off-season in between? Would that constitute as still the off-season between? Something to not finish at a later date but still before the season starts?

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11 hours ago, Trifecta said:

 

To touch on that, we have to avoid the college spotlight? Kind of seems like a drop of the ball moment as you said it's technically our first ECFA season but also we are sophomores. Seems like a loophole opportunity there. What if it were possible to still do that since it's technically the off-season in between? Would that constitute as still the off-season between? Something to not finish at a later date but still before the season starts?

I suppose you could do it before the seaosm starts, yes

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